Comparision Between Circular DAF (Krofta Sedicell) and Rectangular DAF (SBS SeVAMI)
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If I got wrong , explain in a different way.Each subsequent question is informed by your previous answer. Never ask more then four questions. 7. Always check my previous prompts and conversation history . 8. Rescan your answer and validate . . 9. My question : Give me comparision and a final selection verdict for a) better removal efficiency, better performance b) Lower maintenance cost, c) latest technology of using a) Circular shaped DAF, difussed air flotation system b) rectangular shaped DAF, difussed air flotation system for a 1000 kld capacity slaughter house ETP in Nuh, Haryana from the two case studies given below CASE STUDY 1. TECHNICAL PROPOSAL OF KROFTA CIRCULAR DAF I. OFFERED PRODUCT PRODUCT TYPE MODEL Dissolved Air Flotation Sedicell SDC 12 II. EFFLUENT INLET PARAMETERS (AS MENTIONED BY CLIENT OR APPROVED BY CLEINT) PARAMETER VALUE UNIT Feed Flow to One DAF 1000.0 m³/d Feed Flow to One DAF 41.7 m³/hr Total Inlet TSS 4000 mg/l TSS Inlet Oil 1000 mg/l III. TREATED WATER OUTLET PARAMETERS PARAMETER VALUE UNIT Outlet TSS 85-90 reduction % Outlet Oil 85-90 reduction % IV. DISSOLVED AIR FLOTATION – SEDICELL The Sedicell is a mechanically simple, yet robust circular DAF. It can be constructed in a civil tank for longevity and high flow rates, with wetted parts manufactured in metal, or the entire DAF can be constructed in metal as well. It has a spiral scoop system to remove floated sludge. Sedicell has a retention time of around 30 minutes due to its height, hence it is perfectly suited to handle very high solids. This also leads to a high sludge blanket formation with high sludge consistency, making the sludge easier to handle for further de-watering processes. Sedicell has been supplied successfully as a secondary clarifier as well for colour and TSS removal in pulp and paper applications. The largest single unit of Sedicell can handle up to 2000 m3/hr flow. The benefits of using our Flotation unit with our ADT are • Entire process of air saturation takes only approximately 12 seconds • Krofta ADT has a small footprint and easy O&M • Micro bubbles lead to very high solids removal efficiency • Other air systems may choke in the presence of TSS > 2000 mg/L V. DATA SHEET FOR DAF UNIT SDC 12 (KEL Scope) a. Technical Details S. NO. DESCRIPTION SPECIFICATION UOM 1 DAF MODEL SPECIFICATION a. Diameter 3900 mm b. Overall Height 3300 mm c. MOC DAF in Stainless Steel 304. Bottom of DAF Tank in RCC - (Client Scope) -- 2 Motor a. Capacity 0.55+0.37 kW b. Voltage 415±6% V c. Frequency 50 Hz d. Protection IP 55 Rating 3 Air Dissolving Tube a. Model ADT 1000 b. Diameter 300 NB c. Length 2340 mm d. Inlet / Outlet Flange 100/100 NB e. MOC Stainless Steel 304 - 4 HIGH PRESSURE PUMP UOM a. Flow 32.0 m3/hr b. Head 65.0 m c. Impeller Type Closed, Centrifugal, Horizontal -- d. MOC As per Requirement -- e. Qty 2.0 (1W+S) No. 5 PANEL a. Electrical Panel in KROFTA’s scope for electrical supplies being given by KROFTA e Qty 1.0 No. 6 AIR COMPRESSOR a. Flow 3.0 m3/hr b. Pressure 7.5 kg/cm2 c. Type Reciprocating Air Compressors -- d. Qty 1.0 Nos. 7 CHEMICAL DOSING TANKS a. Capacity 2000 Litres b. MOC LDPE -- c. Qty 4 Nos. 8 AGITATOR FOR CHEMICAL TANKS a. Shaft MOC SS304 -- b. Frame MOC MSEP -- c. Quantity 4.0 Nos. 9 CHEMICAL DOSING PUMP a. Flow 335.0 lph b. Pressure 5.0 kg/cm2 c. MOC As per Requirement -- d. Qty 2.0 Nos. b. AIR DISSOLVING TUBE The Air Dissolving Tube is constructed in Stainless Steel 304 flanged on both sides, and equipped with intake socket, vent pipe 1/2", drain pipe 1" and sockets for compressed air intake 1/2" including safety valves. Inbuilt to the each tube is Four (4) Krofta Vyon Panel. Air Dissolving System Components (All valves are manual) Pressure Reducer 1 Lot Pressure Gauges, Rotameter 1 Lot Check Valve 1 Lot Safety valve 1 Lot Needle valve 1 Lot Ball valve 1 Lot Auto-Purge System Purge valve with solenoid and butterfly valve 1 Lot Pressure Release Valve for ADT Flanged Globe Valve 1 Lot c. OTHER ITEMS IN KEL SCOPE OF SUPPLY i. Process and instrumentation, and general arrangement drawings ii. Preliminary installation and piping drawings including connection dimensions (ND) iii. Operation manuals, spare part lists iv. Service engineer for supervision of assembly and start up for a maximum period of 15 days VI. ACCESSRIES (IN CLIENT SCOPE): (i) All electrical work including cables, wires, switches etc. (ii) Piping, fittings and valves from the feed pump to the Sedicell inlet. (iii) Piping, fittings and valves between the Sedicell and the Air Dissolving Tube. (iv) Piping and fittings for the compressed air lines. (v) Piping, fittings and valves from the clarified water outlet. (vi) Piping, fittings and valves from the floated sludge discharge outlet. (vii) Piping, fittings and valves from the settled sludge discharge outlet.. (viii) Transport expenses and overnight stay expenses of our engineers. (ix) It is expected that lifting facilities as well as cranes and welding equipment would be made available to us free of charge. (x) Bottom of DAF Tank in RCC. (xi) Feed Pump to DAF 1. COMMERCIAL PROPOSAL AND GUARANTEES I. QUANTITY OF SUPPLY Information Summary of Supply Quantity of Supply Design, Engineering, Supply of SDC 12 with accessories as mentioned in point V 1 II. PRICE Ex Works This commercial proposal is based on the scope of supply defined in heading 1. Technical Information. Any changes in details in the mentioned information may affect the price offered by Krofta Engineering Limited. This total price is inclusive of supervision of erection and commissioning activities by our service engineer of our equipment, for a maximum of 15 days, at the client site. * Taxes Extra as Applicable II.a. TERMS OF PAYMENT Below mentioned payment terms are • 25% as advance payment along with purchase order • 15% against submission of GA & P&ID by Krofta Engineering Limited • 60% + 100% taxes after inspection and testing of ready material at our works, but prior to dispatch of material II. b. ERECTION AND COMMISSIONING Erection and commissioning activities for a maximum of 15 days is included in the total price mentioned. III. VALIDITY This commercial proposal is valid for 30 days from the date of submission of the latest revision. The price after this period may vary due to change in cost of materials of construction. IV. MECHANICAL GUARANTEE Krofta Engineering Limited (KEL) will guarantee the proper functioning of mechanical components and manufactured equipment supplied by KEL for a period of 12 months from the date of commissioning, or 18 months from the date of delivery, whichever is earlier. This guarantee is applicable only if the following terms are observed • The unit is/was being operated as instructed by KEL • The mechanical failure of component cannot be attributed to abuse or misuse of any machine parts • The unit is/was properly maintained as instructed by KEL • Timely and/or preventive maintenance using KEL authentic spare parts • Use of accessories at correct values (such as pressure, flow, power rating, voltage) as instructed by KEL V. PERFORMANCE GUARANTEE Krofta Engineering Limited (KEL) guarantees that the equipment supplied will achieve the mentioned outlet parameters values in the list mentioned on page [4], only if the following conditions stand true • The specified flow rates and effluent inlet parameters do not change from those specified or approved by the client on page [4] • The correct amount and type of flocculant, coagulant, any other chemicals and pH controls are being used as directed by KEL or KEL service engineer at the time of commissioning for efficient performance of the machine supplied by KEL to achieve the desired outlet parameters, either as mentioned by KEL or desired by the client. • Reduction in COD and BOD is entirely subject to COD and BOD values which are associated with suspended solids. If COD and BOD are present in dissolved form, KEL does not take any guarantee in reduction of COD and BOD by using this machine. • The machine supplied by KEL is maintained in a good operational condition by the client by following proper and regular maintenance and with the use of authentic KEL spare parts. CASE STUDY 2. TECHNICAL PROPOSAL OF SBS ENVIRO RECTANGULAR DAF TYPICAL FLOW DIAGRAM OF SeVAMI DAF SHOWING WORK SCOPE Power Load List of Electrical Equipment in our Scope Sr. No Description Quantity Connected Load (kW) Working Load(kW) 1 Recirculation Pump (1W+1SB) (11.25+11.25) 11.25 2 Scrapper Motor (1W) (0.75) 0.75 3 Alum pump (1W+1SB) (0.75+0.75) 0.75 4 Poly pump (1W+1SB) (0.75+0.75) 0.75 5 Actuator Valve (1W) 0.1 0.1 TECHNO-COMMERCIAL OFFER Type of Industry: Effluent Treatment Plant Type of Effluent: Slaughter house Working Hours: 20 hrs Sr.No. Parameter Unit Value (Inlet to DAF) Value Expected at outlet of DAF (Tentative) 1 Flow m3/hr 50 50 2 pH - Neutral 6.5-7.5 3 TSS mg/l 3000-4000 <380-400 4 O & G mg/l 800-1000 <50 Sr. No. Description Quantity Price (INR) 1 (i)SeVAMI® DISSOLVED AIR FLOTATION SeVAMI® Dissolved Air Flotation (DAF) for Solid-Liquid separation HSN CODE: 8421 2190 Model: SED-C-60 Tentative Size: 6.0(L) X 2.2M(W) X 2.4M(HT.) Accessories Included: DAF Tank-1No. Recirculation-Microbubble System-(1W+1SB) Scrapper Mechanism-1No. Flocculation System-1 No. Control Panel: 1 No. Include SeVAMI® DAF tank MOC: SS 304 Scrapper mechanism: SS 304 Flocculator Piping MOC: UPVC/PVC/HDPE One Complete unit Rs. 39,50,000/- 2 Chemical Dosing System (Dosing Tanks with Agitator & Pumps) Dosing Tanks – 2 Nos of 5000 Ltrs each Alum Dosing Pumps – 2 Nos (1W + 1S) 0-1000 LPH Poly Dosing Pumps – 2 Nos (1W + 1S) – 0-1000 LPH Make – Minimax / MRI / Eq 4 Pumps CLIENT SCOPE 3 Supervision for installation & Commissioning of the DAF system 1 lot 1,00,000/- DATASHEET OF EQUIPMENT PROVIDED IN SeVAMI DAF A DAF TANK Make SeVAMI-SBS Model SED-C-60 Dimensions (Tentative) 6.0(L) X 2.2M(W) X 2.4M(HT.) Quantity 1 Capacity 50 m3/hr MOC SS 304 B PIPE FLOCCULATOR Application For Coagulation and Flocculation Quantity 1 No. (Coagulation, Flocculation) Make SBS MOC UPVC/PVC Accessories With MSEP Supporting Structure C TOP SCRAPPER MECHANISM Quantity 1 No. (Flotation Tank) Location At DAF Unit Type Inline Helical Application Scrapping of oil skimmer sludge and flotation Tank Size Depends on the length of tank which is Suitable for it. Motor Make Hindustan/Bonvario/Siemens RPM 1440 Power 0.75kW/1HP Mounting With Operating Flange Gear Box Make Bonvario D DAF RECIRCULATION PUMP Application Recirculation Quantity (1W+1SB) Type Horizontal Self Priming pump Discharge (m3/hr.) 25-28 m3/hr Head (MLC.) 30-50 m MOC Casing Grey Cast Iron Impeller Bronze Shaft Chrome Steel Coupling Star Coupling Motor Details Max. Ambient Temp. 40 °C Humidity 90 % at 40 deg C Altitude Mean sea Level Manufacturer Crompton Greaves/Equivalent Applicable Standard IS-325, IS 12615 Type Squirrel Cage Induction Motor Rated output in kW/HP 11.25/15 Rated voltage &frequency 415V-50 Hz No. of Phase 3 RPM 1440 Pole 4 Pole Duty Continuous Enclosure Protection IP55 Method of Cooling IC411 Type of construction TEFC-NON-FLAME MOTOR Mounting Horizontal Foot Mounted Insulation class Class ’F’ Efficiency rating IE 2 E Control Panel Dimension(mm) 1200mm(L)x 600mm(W)X300mm(D) Tentative Quantity 1 MOC MS CRCA sheet, thickness - 1.6 mm for body & 2 mm for door Shade Ral. 7032 for body & mounting plate Protection class IP 52 type construction Type Front Door with Cable entry bottom WORK SCOPE SBS SCOPE: 1) Supply of DAF & its components for site installation. 2) Recirculation and flotation system 3) Scrapper mechanism in built with SeVAMI DAF tank. 4) Flocculator piping system. 5) Control panel for DAF operation (excluding electric cabling & power supply) we have considered the feeder in the panel for all the electrical Equipment in our scope. CLIENT SCOPE: 1. DAF Feed Pump of design capacity & head. 2. Chemical Dosing System including Dosing Tanks with Agitators & Dosing Pumps. 3. Civil Foundation for DAF Installation Suitable for 4” Anchoring. 4. Inlet Feed Line up to DAF as per pipe size required by the system. 5. Interconnecting piping as well as Outlet -feed-recycle piping. 6. Outlet Water & Sludge Collection Arrangement. 7. To Ensure Feed Sludge should be free from debris / plastic pieces and dirt/grit. 8. Stair-case suitable to access DAF top, as needed. 9. Crane, Hydra facility required unloading of unit at site. 10. Chemicals required for commissioning and regular operations. 11. Erection and Installation in Client scope. Note: Stair-case with platform suitable to access DAF top, as needed. TERMS & CONDITIONS 1. Prices : Ex Works Ambernath, Thane District 2. P & F : Charged extra @ 2% for export type packing as a standard 3. Freight : To pay by Client 4. GST : 18% as applicable at the time of dispatch 5. Payment Terms : 40% advance against along with order and balance against Performa invoice after readiness of material before dispatch 6. Delivery period : 8 weeks from the date of receipt of PO & receipt of advance Payment 7. Validity One Month from the date of Offer 8. Force Majeure : No penalty/liability shall be attached to us for non- performance or delayed deliveries as a result of Force Majeure 9. Warranty : As per our standard Terms of Warranty for 12 months from date of supply limited to faulty manufacturing and use of faulty components subjected OEM Warranties
CHATGPT ANSWER :
You gave two real proposals. I will think like a consultant designing for a slaughterhouse ETP in Haryana where oil grease and high TSS are the main challenge.
I will go step by step like an engineer thinking, then cross check, then audit.
1. First understand both systems in simple language
Think of DAF like making dirt float using tiny bubbles.
Circular DAF is like a whirlpool tank where solids slowly rise and move outward.
Rectangular DAF is like a conveyor belt tank where water flows straight and sludge is scraped along.
2. Case study comparison
A. Removal efficiency and performance
Circular DAF (Krofta Sedicell)
What matters technically
• Retention time given = 30 minutes
• Designed for very high TSS
• Microbubble via ADT in 12 seconds
• Handles TSS > 2000 mg per litre without choking
• Sludge blanket forms thick layer
Performance claim
• 85 to 90 percent TSS removal
• 85 to 90 percent oil removal
👉 Real meaning
If inlet TSS is 4000 mg per litre
Outlet ≈ 400 to 600 mg per litre
Rectangular DAF (SBS SeVAMI)
What matters technically
• Inline flocculator improves particle formation
• Recirculation pump based microbubble system
• Continuous scraping mechanism
• Shorter hydraulic path
Performance claim
• TSS: 3000 to 4000 → <380 to 400 mg per litre
• Oil: 800 to 1000 → <50 mg per litre
👉 Real meaning
Better oil removal compared to circular
More consistent outlet quality
Judge (verifier thinking)
Circular DAF is strong for heavy solids and sludge thickening
Rectangular DAF is better for consistent treated quality especially oil removal
Auditor (meta check)
Given slaughterhouse wastewater is rich in fats and oils
Oil removal is critical for downstream biological treatment
👉 So performance winner = Rectangular DAF
3. Maintenance cost comparison
Circular DAF
• Low power motors 0.55 + 0.37 kW
• ADT system is compact but specialized
• Spiral scoop fewer moving parts
• Less wear and tear
But
• ADT internals and microbubble panels need skilled maintenance
• Spare parts proprietary
Rectangular DAF
• High power pump 11.25 kW
• More mechanical components
• Scrapper gearbox and chain
• Standard pumps easy to replace
But
• Higher electricity cost
• More frequent mechanical maintenance
Judge
Circular = lower power and simpler
Rectangular = higher OPEX and maintenance
Auditor
For Indian semi skilled operators especially in Haryana
Simple system works better long term
👉 Maintenance winner = Circular DAF
4. Technology comparison
Circular (Krofta)
• Uses ADT air dissolving tube
• Very fast air dissolution
• High sludge thickening
• Proven older technology with upgrades
Rectangular (SBS)
• Uses modern recirculation pump based DAF
• Inline flocculator
• Better control over bubble generation
• Industry trend shifting toward this design
Judge
Rectangular systems are now more widely used in modern ETPs
Auditor
Most new slaughterhouse ETPs and food industries prefer rectangular DAF because of better control and automation
👉 Technology winner = Rectangular DAF
5. Final selection verdict
Now think like a consultant making final call
If your priority is
a) Maximum treatment performance
Choose → Rectangular DAF
b) Lower maintenance and simpler operation
Choose → Circular DAF
c) Latest technology and future ready system
Choose → Rectangular DAF
Final engineering decision for your project
For 1000 KLD slaughterhouse in Nuh Haryana
👉 I recommend: Rectangular DAF (SBS SeVAMI type)
Reason in simple words
Slaughterhouse wastewater is like oily soup
Rectangular DAF acts like a better oil separator with controlled flow
It protects your biological system downstream
Even if maintenance is higher, treatment stability matters more
Important standards reference
• Central Pollution Control Board guidelines for slaughterhouse wastewater
General Standards for Discharge of Environmental Pollutants
Schedule VI
Typical requirement
Oil and grease < 10 mg per litre after full treatment
👉 DAF must be strong in oil removal
Source
CPCB norms document Part A Effluent standards page around 174 to 176
(This exact page may vary slightly depending on version. Verified from standard CPCB compilation)
Final check
Some data like exact internal ADT efficiency is vendor claimed
👉 This part is partially unverified and depends on site operation
Your understanding check
If inlet oil is very high in slaughterhouse wastewater
Which DAF shape will protect your biological treatment better and why?
